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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 8, 2011 4:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TJI 1974

whooo! check out the notes on this transfer...un-circulated tapes? if i'm interpreting this correctly, this seems very worthy of a DL

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1974-10-18.111459.gems.BOSWELL-SMITH.flac24

i know this is a great one... the part i'm sure is on the GD movie soundtrack (Jam>Dark Star>Dew) is spectacular. any thoughts on the rest of the show?

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jan 8, 2011 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

a good show, but not great imo. strong versions of GDTRFB and Dew. a few of the little tunes are nice, including PeggyO.

prefer DPs 7 and 31 and the summer stuff to this run.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 8, 2011 11:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

i haven't listened to these yet, but according to the notes on the other transfer it seems they could be better tapes being from the raw multi-tracks that jerry had for the movie...just speculating here, the notes seem to imply this, but i have no idea if there is any significant difference at all...

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 8, 2011 5:51pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

i say somewhat agree with you there... of what i have heard at least, the summer '74 shows i think are vastly superior to the kind of overrated Winterland "retirement" run.

the performances are very polished, but there is not nearly as much jazzy, spontaneous jamming as those summer shows.

DP 31 is excellent, but i don't find 7 to be anything special

the Dark Star>Dew excerpt from this show that's included on the soundtrack is one of the best ever, though!

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jan 9, 2011 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

clementinescaboose,

As for DP 7 .... I wouldn't call any of the 3 Alexandra Palace shows strong (well, maybe 9/11), but there is some great stuff there.

9/9 - strong Truckin with a good outro. not much else imo. not a good show.

9/10 - huge NFA, China Cat transition, and Dew (best ever?). great US Blues.

9/11 - outstanding Eyes, and a few real good little tunes, including Big River and A&A.

I like the DP a lot, but wish they had included the Eyes from 9/11. This is a case where the compilation worked much better than an expensive three show, nine disc release.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 9, 2011 12:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

D&M....you seem not to be a fan of 1974 Dark Stars?
You don't mention the Stars for 9/10 or 10/18 as being notable, whereas they'd be the first highlights I'd list...are they too spacy for you?

One thing I like in the late-'74 shows is when Jerry & the band will join Phil & Ned in Seastones (9/11, 9/21, 10/16, 10/18). In the summer shows, Seastones was left to itself, discrete from the Dead; but a few times in Sept/Oct it expanded into massive outside space-jams. Not to everyone's taste I guess, but I find them very rewarding...
Of course, Bob Weir later said that their '74 jams were getting too weird and introverted and losing the audience...

By the way, this is an interview with Dick Latvala about his Alexandra Palace choices for DP7:
ftp://gdead.berkeley.edu/pub/gdead/interviews/Dick-Latvala.02.26.97
(Latvala seems rather out of it, but he does talk about the rationale behind his 3-CD selections.)

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jan 9, 2011 3:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

Hi light,

The 9/10 Dark Star just doesn't make it far enough, unfortunately. Not too spacey for me, but too few pleasing noises arise from that space for the 31 minutes spent. An interesting piece, but not enough good music there for the time invested to single it out as a highlight.

As always though, I'll keep an open mind next time I have it on.

What is it that you like about it?

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Jan 10, 2011 12:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

Actually, it's not very spacy at all...stays pretty much in the abstract-jazz realm, without getting into really melodic themes or drifting too much. I like the calm space they stay in for about five minutes before the verse. And I especially like the chaos after the verse, when they freak out, return to form, then slide into the Morning Dew.....very well-done.

You're right that the Dew and NFA are particularly strong.

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2011-01-10 08:31:37

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Poster: Death&Mercy Date: Jan 10, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

although, the 10/18 Dark Star could certainly be called a highlight. it flows better than the 09/10 version imo, and Jerry does some very nice work in the first half of the tune.

just not a big fan of most of the 73 and 74 Dark Stars, though the 10/19 and 11/11/73 versions are up there ....

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jan 8, 2011 6:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

Just my opinion, but with the exception of the 9/18 Dijon show, I think the entire Europe '74 tour pretty much sucked ass! May through early August is the sweet-spot of the year.

I'm not sure why, but the '74 Winterland run doesnt do that much for me, however I do have to admit that several of the second set jams during the run are pretty compelling.

I enjoyed listening to this new tranfer earlier today, but I'm actually somewhat distracted right now by some 90's shows (believe it or not). Can anyone say wether or not this new transfer is actually any better than the Charlie Miller remasters that moved through this past November?

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Jan 8, 2011 11:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

90's shows? are you sure you're feeling ok CH??

totally agree about Euro '74 too...there are a few unique jams, but aside from the 9/18 show you mentioned i also think it mostly blows donkey dick!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Jan 8, 2011 5:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

I would love to somehow re-seed Hunter Seamons matrix of 8-4-74 on a torrent site, but the file is 2.6gb (really!) of .wav files- even larger with flac. How do I shrink this down to a manageable file size? Is this possible???

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Poster: Jim F Date: Jan 9, 2011 1:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TJI 1974

The files should be smaller with FLAC, not bigger. If you're going to seed it anywhere, you'll probably need to have it in FLAC format (unless you use SHN, but that's kindof outdated at this point). Of course if you really want smaller files you could go MP3, but most people aren't going to want it if it's MP3 sourced, and none of the popular torrent trackers will seed it if it's in a lossy format. Stick with the FLAC.